tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post1284909459887463959..comments2023-05-14T06:20:54.641-05:00Comments on Sarah's Daughter: Guest Post: Cranky Betas - not attractive to single women - as well they shouldn't be SarahsDaughterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11070845597474113030noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-90375527112029603422014-08-01T14:35:40.945-05:002014-08-01T14:35:40.945-05:00Hey Sarah I will be reposting this and expanding o...Hey Sarah I will be reposting this and expanding on it some time shortly Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-20639577627311043312014-03-15T04:09:06.178-05:002014-03-15T04:09:06.178-05:00"But it brings to mind an old quote... "..."But it brings to mind an old quote... "There's nothing a soldier hates worse than a warrior.""<br /><br />As an Army veteran, I call BS on that "old quote".Ericnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-16984754535127407822014-02-12T17:57:03.355-06:002014-02-12T17:57:03.355-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Ummonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06042137149164109285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-82942434250818453762014-02-05T17:48:12.419-06:002014-02-05T17:48:12.419-06:00@Stg58
Obviously, he doesn't. But it brings ...@Stg58<br />Obviously, he doesn't. But it brings to mind an old quote... "There's nothing a soldier hates worse than a warrior."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-56263774240635657312014-02-02T14:22:37.939-06:002014-02-02T14:22:37.939-06:00Only seen one mad max style collapse and that was ...Only seen one mad max style collapse and that was in africa. Everywhere else kind of ran the gauntlet, but even where the state had decent level of control, the police where thug like in dealing with problems, supplementing their income etc Tonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-78294302011818617292014-02-02T13:50:44.300-06:002014-02-02T13:50:44.300-06:00I will agree that a full collapse that devolves in...I will agree that a full collapse that devolves into the "roving bands" dynamic will benefit the "violent thug alpha". A common theory is that a past "near extinction" event left with it some of the female attractions towards the dark triad traits. However, current civilisation and roving bands are not the only two states. <br /><br />Most of historical time you have harsh consequences but not the full fail-state dynamic. You can see remnants of it in women of the less well off parts of the world (still) valuing stable provider guy (eg. parts of Asia). The slutty "roaring 20:s" partly reversed to the 50:s dads through a great depression and a world war in the US.<br /><br />Roissy noted this dynamic in a number of his posts (for example http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/compassion-creates-more-cads/ and http://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/12/05/when-women-stop-loving-beta-males/)<br /><br />So what I am saying is :<br /><br /> - During "collapse" : Thugs rule<br /> - Stabilizing , done by cooperating "betas"<br /> - Stable but harsh situation Reliable provider Eddy steadyguy valued.<br /> - Stable and economic largesse, CAD country/Alpha chase.bluefirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13598135029811163648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-30603614952277711052014-02-02T06:24:43.286-06:002014-02-02T06:24:43.286-06:00I have seen/ lived in 5 failed and or failing nati...I have seen/ lived in 5 failed and or failing nation states on three different continents<br /><br />None played out like you two think regarding betas. Alphas/ thugs harems grow, betas become alpha/ thug like or become defacto peasants, betas women go into the soft rotation of the alphas buying her "man" a measure of security... women don't rush to betas because they offering nothing in return unless that beta butchs up. Betas don't rally together and take down alphas/ thugs. They join up, pay protection of some sorts, live like moles etc but don't become batmans and the like<br /><br />Betas like their illusions including the notion they all have some hidden super hero in them. It's why they like comic books, movies etc. I have yet to see things play out like that in the real world. Tonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-89123833029444213332014-02-02T03:43:33.265-06:002014-02-02T03:43:33.265-06:00"they are for the time periods of peace and p..."they are for the time periods of peace and prosperity. Which is rare when you look at history. The Bible also tells us things will get worse. Sooooo who should she tie her fate to? The nice guy beta, or the thug who is willing to fight, break the law, skirt social norms etc? Which is not to say the beta won't nut up, but who has the demonstrated track record of taking risks, violence etc?"<br /><br />This is bass ackwards. The beta is "popular" with women during harsh times. When the alpha leaving her knocked up has real starvation class consequences. The alpha-chasing is popular when you have general prosperity and a government beta funded social security net.<br />bluefirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13598135029811163648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-81889515116978539562014-02-01T08:29:54.561-06:002014-02-01T08:29:54.561-06:00"The Bible also tells us things will get wors..."The Bible also tells us things will get worse. Sooooo who should she tie her fate to? The nice guy beta, or the thug who is willing to fight, break the law, skirt social norms etc? Which is not to say the beta won't nut up, but who has the demonstrated track record of taking risks, violence etc?"<br /><br />The thug is willing to do all those things, but not for her. He's unlikely to have any sense of responsibility for her. He will take risks to defend himself, to further his interests, maybe to help men he respects, but he won't risk anything for a female that he likely views as a replaceable jizz bucket. Why should he? Some woman will always be there for him to take, because there's always at least one who throws herself at him. The only group of men that can be counted on to take risks in order to protect women are the average betas. When crisis hits, they form tight-knit groups to cooperate and defend the people and resources they value. It's ludicrous to think that betas are wimps. Beta rage is a real phenomenon. Betas have all the ability to be tough, to stand for themselves, to assert their will. However, they are only capable of this when confronted by other men. They cannot do it against women.<br /><br />"Why betas are not the logical choice; they are for the time periods of peace and prosperity."<br /><br />Nonsense. In periods of peace and prosperity, the thing that pays is to be an alpha thug, to be a wolf among sheep, cuckolding clueless betas who foolishly take it for granted that other men are as civilized as he is, to live off the wealth created by betas in peaceful prosperity, to pump and dump women who don't expect commitment and resources in exchange for sex, precisely because peace and prosperity allows them to be financially independent.<br /><br />When order breaks down, it pays to be a beta and cooperate with other betas to pool your resources and wit to fight off the alpha plunderers. For alphas, it's a war of everyone against everyone, a life of constant mortal danger.<br />Höllenhundnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-24606549669119212752014-01-31T16:15:48.296-06:002014-01-31T16:15:48.296-06:00I should have added
On ordering a society, not ev...I should have added<br /><br />On ordering a society, not every can or should be tier 1. Mechanics, electricians, plumbers, machinists, computer nerds are more important and more useful, but every man should know the basics. How to use a gun, a knife, land clean punches etc Tonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-36714161176235501382014-01-31T14:15:14.811-06:002014-01-31T14:15:14.811-06:00Bob Wallace,
Are you sure you know who Ton is?Bob Wallace,<br /><br />Are you sure you know who Ton is?Stg58/Animal Mothernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-53107989887744985742014-01-31T12:25:37.576-06:002014-01-31T12:25:37.576-06:00Boys are taught, mostly by women BTW, that alpha b...Boys are taught, mostly by women BTW, that alpha behavior is wrong. The message of DO NOT, hit, fight back, call names, climb trees, play rough, use pretend guns etc, is drilled into little boys before they even discover that they are little boys. Little boys can't be raised as girls and be expected to naturally adapt into grown male behavior. What we are seeing in isn't a difference in Alpha vs Beta males, it s a difference between masculine and non-masculine male behavior. <br /><br />The frustrated American male (FAM) phenomena isn't a result of Alpha vs Beta sexual conquest dynamics. The FAM is a result of removing and restricting ANY form of male behavior from an early age. If a boy is taught that he should do XY&Z and that he will be successful if he does, and then he does those things and fails repeatedly to achieve his goals, he is going to get frustrated. The frustrated male is either going to act out, or check out. That is what we are seeing. The FAM isn't a beta, he is a emotional and psychological neuter, made that way by those who raised and taught him. <br /><br />The FAM can't get a date, but he is a nice guy. He can't get a good job, but he went to a good school got good grades and is a hard worker. He can't get a good job and he can't get a girl he figures something is wrong, but he can't figure out what it is. His whole life he has been trained and he is sticking to his training, because its supposed to work. In the mean time there is porn, beer and chips, and these wonderful video games that allow him to pretend that he is a genuine badass. Have you noticed that across game platforms first person shooters tend to be the top selling and most frequently played video games? Why is that? Is that because video games are a socially (mother) approved way of playing quietly and still getting to play army?<br /><br />To paraphrase Lewis, we castrate and bid the geldings to be fruitful.<br /><br />Boys need to be boys. They need sword fights (or light sabers) and playing army and cops and robbers. They need to get punched. They need to punch back. They should crash their bike, skin their knee and play with fireworks. Yes they may put an eye out, and break a arm/leg. Better they break their leg than break the spirit. Better to lose an eye than to lose their identity as men. Res Ipsahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16433725505878267643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-27947366451104922132014-01-31T06:56:26.293-06:002014-01-31T06:56:26.293-06:00While I'm going to maintain this discussion sh...While I'm going to maintain this discussion should be had among men (and why I have no commentary in the OP other than to say it is of interest to me) I did have to laugh a bit about your paper alpha comment considering your choice in picture. Ron White is one of my favorite comedians but also the quintessential bad boy who has successfully landed a very hot woman. SarahsDaughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070845597474113030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-34444938071461201912014-01-31T06:31:39.835-06:002014-01-31T06:31:39.835-06:00Men who talk about violence in this manner do not ...Men who talk about violence in this manner do not know what violence is. This is why I refer to so many in the Manosphere as wimps. Because they are. Including the so-called "Alphas," who should be called Paper Alphas.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16046202647270439670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-77292112745595117832014-01-31T01:50:33.306-06:002014-01-31T01:50:33.306-06:00I'm sure this will hit some people like a ton ...I'm sure this will hit some people like a ton of bricks. Stg58/Animal Motherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02888892668809932497noreply@blogger.com