tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post8530012447497251698..comments2023-05-14T06:20:54.641-05:00Comments on Sarah's Daughter: A rational MGTOW parrySarahsDaughterhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11070845597474113030noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-67467181465722123952017-03-25T22:52:43.618-05:002017-03-25T22:52:43.618-05:00So I thought I would give my 2 cents on this mgtow...So I thought I would give my 2 cents on this mgtow issue here. I know this thread is around 3 years old, and no one will probably even see this, but I thought, why not? <br /> Reading through the entire page of comments here, I am struck by one thing. I don’t think (I could be wrong of course) that you truly understand mgtow. You seem to have a surface level understanding, but the painting of mgtow men as largely masturbating losers and whiners seems inaccurate to me…but before I get into that I guess I will give a brief background of myself.<br /> I am about to hit 30 years old. 2 weeks away. I hadn’t heard of mgtow or the redpill until about 3 years ago. I always sensed something was wrong. When talking to women or trying to date them, I couldn’t put my finger on it exactly, but something always seemed unwomanly (if that’s even a word lol) about them. After I dumped a girl I was seeing because she would sleep with other guys after I dropped her off (seriously she called them to come over some nights after I dropped her off, all the while claiming to be someone who believed in God and was waiting for marriage) I was pretty livid. So I remember googling “women suck” or something along those lines. A video on YouTube came up, and I watched it. I have never thought the same since.<br /> I never really knew about divorce laws, and all that other unfun stuff modern men are forced to endure (it’s been covered at length in other comments, so I won’t beat a dead horse). So I soaked up as much info as I could. I was appalled at what I found. I came across some of Tom Leykis’s older stuff. Put some of his Leykis 101 to the test. Boy was I ever surprised when treating women like crap worked well. I went from women seeming uninterested to interested in a very short time span. I of course stopped, I simply hate treating people (even women) in a manner like that. Growing up in church literally had brainwashed me in this area. Still angry at modern day American church (and I grew up in old-school independent fundamental Baptist type churches too). Screw them lol. Now let me say this, I am a Christian, believer in Jesus, try to follow God as much as I can, and as such a virgin till marriage, I do believe in following the Bible, even if it sucks at times. <br /> Back to the original point, I see mgtow as a rational (albeit not looking forward to the next generations) response to feminism and a government that wants to see them rule over men. Getting married means putting a woman in a position of power over you. She can, on a whim, ruin your life, take your kids, rape you in divorce court etc. All because she no longer “feels” the same way about you, or whatever nonsense she comes up with. There is nothing you could do to stop it. Sure, a man can learn “game” as the manosphere likes to put it. I’ve tried, it does produce better results for the most part. But that always felt like I was being dishonest. I was modifying my behaviors solely so a woman would find me attractive. That isn’t right. <br /> I am not trying to be one of those whiners and complainers. Merely trying to give some insight into why some men choose to walk away from the table. Most of the worst experiences I have ever had in my life have come from trying to relate to women, and I have had it easy in comparison to some. I can see why some men are straight up done. At the end of the day, however, one is still left with their God given desires for the opposite sex. Getting mad at God when he doesn’t answer your prayers to take away said sex drive doesn’t help either. Bad road to travel. Maybe a little more compassion is needed for these guys. While I do not consider myself a mgtow yet….I would be lying if I didn’t say it was tempting. The older I get, and the more I see, the more it seems to make perfect sense. While mgtow isn’t giving up, I would be giving up on my dreams of having my own family, and I just can’t bring myself to throw in the towel on that dream, no matter how much its likelihood diminishes with each passing year.<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04979494952896861079noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-36643484389105307962016-07-11T11:44:22.433-05:002016-07-11T11:44:22.433-05:00So what's the fix for those of us who ended up...So what's the fix for those of us who ended up in a marriage to someone who was disrespectful, or who used us, or who was physically/verbally/emotionally/financially abusive? Is there hope we can find a decent woman, if we still desire the married life?<br /><br />Unfortunately there are a lot of good, stable, Christian men out here who have made an error in choosing a spouse...not having the social skills back then to recognize red flags and end a relationship before marriage. Years on, now single again, we still struggle to find healthy women for marriage...but now are no longer wanted, ourselves, since we have the red mark of divorce on our foreheads. How do good men and women find each other? Are divorced men even wanted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-48700535128051266972013-11-08T12:43:12.450-06:002013-11-08T12:43:12.450-06:00I came across your web site and thought you might ...I came across your web site and thought you might be interested in this;<br /><br />http://christianpioneer.com/blog/blog.htmtomhttp://christianpioneer.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-78130156926336360322013-10-31T01:53:24.146-05:002013-10-31T01:53:24.146-05:00Then you aren't familiar with the Bible. Pick ...Then you aren't familiar with the Bible. Pick a name or be gone.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-25208861915765550772013-10-30T23:44:01.056-05:002013-10-30T23:44:01.056-05:00that doesn't seem like a very chirstian respon...that doesn't seem like a very chirstian response.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-33509894943691310192013-10-21T14:23:50.024-05:002013-10-21T14:23:50.024-05:00No anonymous comments and more whining about money...No anonymous comments and more whining about money.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-5782437231553332782013-10-21T09:08:04.334-05:002013-10-21T09:08:04.334-05:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-77792071695652518022013-09-12T22:38:16.106-05:002013-09-12T22:38:16.106-05:00I assure you I'm not lying. My logic is actual...I assure you I'm not lying. My logic is actually quite good. I'm a physicist and have taken a great amount of logic and philosophy courses. I've been a salesman in Fortune 500 companies, I've run my own multi-million dollar company, I've been an officer in the Army, and I've been on competitive sports teams including the collegiate level.<br /><br />I stated earlier that shaming is a proven tactic in most successful organizations I have been part of. It works. It works for the society; not necessarily the individual. Those it doesn't work on aren't worth caring about. They won't accomplish anything worth while anyway.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-81616996187983400912013-09-11T10:34:46.237-05:002013-09-11T10:34:46.237-05:00You're lying. Your comments are long on emoti...You're lying. Your comments are long on emotion and short on logic. Guys don't do that. Any particular reason for the deceit? Lawbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13922399370851844535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-64912893033558269532013-09-11T10:27:03.807-05:002013-09-11T10:27:03.807-05:00I've been a man all my life. I think you are c...I've been a man all my life. I think you are confused. Do run along.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-74482157553110233052013-09-10T21:26:44.878-05:002013-09-10T21:26:44.878-05:00You're a woman! Why are you tripping around h...You're a woman! Why are you tripping around here pretending to be a guy?Lawbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13922399370851844535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-51561909325094416572013-09-10T09:40:27.132-05:002013-09-10T09:40:27.132-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lawbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13922399370851844535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-48217528195460472562013-09-09T23:37:15.601-05:002013-09-09T23:37:15.601-05:00Many have noticed shaming doesn't work on the ...Many have noticed shaming doesn't work on the bottom quartile of men. We don't care about them. They suck at everything and don't know how to accomplish relationships in life. Nothing will change them.<br /><br />Changing the laws will not help them either. They are losers. They don't have the desire to change. They are happy in their martyrdom. This is not a Christian path for men. A Christian path doesn't care about the money or hurt feelings.<br /><br />Really, the MGTOW whiners can't come up with anything else. Money and hurt feelings...wow...big stuff going on there. Not exactly something that is a Biblical issue for men.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-74432542218633235132013-09-09T02:57:48.340-05:002013-09-09T02:57:48.340-05:00I don't suppose that anyone has noticed that s... I don't suppose that anyone has noticed that shaming tactics simply do not work on these MGTOW? They have taken a long hard cold look at the court system and KNOW that marriage would get them the dirty end of the stick. These guys aren't stupid. Demanding that they get married is demanding that they place themselves at the mercy of a pitiless court system that would strip them of their property and paychecks in the blink of an eye. Which is worse? A little shaming on the internet or being destroyed by a divorce? Not to mention the emotional trauma of having his own children ripped away from him.<br /> If the divorce laws are not changed than more and more men will opt out of the system. It's the only way to effectively fight it. Lawbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13922399370851844535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-77261598294693130432013-09-09T02:33:20.466-05:002013-09-09T02:33:20.466-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lawbornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13922399370851844535noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-84211288877727871792013-05-08T19:52:11.256-05:002013-05-08T19:52:11.256-05:00Aww, a sniping little MGTOW. Hop little rabbit, ho...Aww, a sniping little MGTOW. Hop little rabbit, hop!SarahsDaughterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11070845597474113030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-76498172540888920982013-05-08T13:00:53.393-05:002013-05-08T13:00:53.393-05:00Now THAT is funny! Now THAT is funny! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-53379887434008600352013-05-07T22:12:50.911-05:002013-05-07T22:12:50.911-05:00He is good. He blesses some with children and gran...He is good. He blesses some with children and grandchildren. My family has long standing marriages in tact. It's a habit developed by strong men.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-6700875035687173922013-05-06T11:53:57.231-05:002013-05-06T11:53:57.231-05:00Another beautiful thread that unintentionally supp...Another beautiful thread that unintentionally supports MGTOW.<br /><br />"Even those men who did all the right things... This the problem. They didn't do all the right things. They listened to liars." EXACTLY why blogs like this are important. The example of this blog's folly can be more convincing than anything I write about the folly of my own nightmare marriage. Bravo!<br /><br />"And so many men, including Christian men, are making the cost-benefit analysis ... This is simply not accurate. These men don't want to adjust to the conditions on the ground. They just whine." When I did street preaching and worked with the homeless I wasn't whining, I was warning. I'm glad you can't see that men ARE adjusting to conditions on the ground and refusing marriage and the invitation for violent intervention by a capricious government jailing a husband at the whim of his wife.<br /><br />This blog will be in the MGTOW museum in the near future. I have a feeling Red will be a member before long, anyway...whether he wants to or not. LOL!<br /><br />God is good!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-77485263210697061672013-05-06T00:42:09.890-05:002013-05-06T00:42:09.890-05:00All of this is well said. I don't claim to hav...All of this is well said. I don't claim to have been perfect in my pursuit of a wife. I could have done things in a more Christian manner. I blame the lack of guidance and that is why I try be a guide for those seeking the Truth and my children/grandchildren. I pray for them to stand on my shoulders. I am also thankful for the guidance I did have because I have certainly stood on their shoulders.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-36072239118785569032013-05-05T08:14:55.363-05:002013-05-05T08:14:55.363-05:00You have avoided my question for the last time. If...You have avoided my question for the last time. If you want to comment again, email me your response.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-32036906066961636762013-05-05T06:16:32.071-05:002013-05-05T06:16:32.071-05:00Why, because you know my path with God? Are you th...Why, because you know my path with God? Are you the arbiter of all things positive in relationship to Christ? You don't know my or anyone else's transition with God. Go judge elsewhere you den of vipers.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-65193605083706567622013-05-05T06:09:41.179-05:002013-05-05T06:09:41.179-05:00Quite parsing. You know I'm not catering to SD...Quite parsing. You know I'm not catering to SD until I know her the way Christ does. I live with her in an understanding way and you can't figure out how to reconcile that. One minute I'm a neanderthal to you and the next I'm supplicating. These are your words, not mine.<br /><br />My name calling shouldn't hurt your woman-like feelings if they don't stick. You should be able to walk away and not care. You still haven't answered how this decent blog exists despite the fact that SD's mentality wouldn't exist if it wasn't for my neanderthal ways.<br /><br />And you're right, you might be banned. Not because I don't agree with you. But because I don't want weenies on this site that complain and do nothing. This whole issue started because of donalgraeme telling us how lucky we were. That is complete BS. We aren't lucky. We work harder than the whiners are willing to. My empathy is displayed by telling you the truth. That's all the empathy I have for losers. If they can't conform to the truth, go away. You can't stop a loser from losing.redlegbenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06695513683497743566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-75522621081364640822013-05-04T07:40:09.257-05:002013-05-04T07:40:09.257-05:00I will try again, yesterday I was blocked, maybe b...I will try again, yesterday I was blocked, maybe banned, who knows<br /><br />1 Peter 3:7 is not conditional, the word "but" in your sentence infers conditionality, which is normative in the church for God imperatives on gender relations, particularly spousal. Though you didn't elaborate, so my objection to your statement is in my previous sentence, there is much misunderstanding about what "in understanding" even means. Joel and Kathy Davisson have developed an entire male supplication ministry out of it, insisting that unless and until a man literally "knows her heart", he fails. They offer an impossible task, when the scriptural imperative is not significantly more than "be nice and accommodating, try and sympathize or empathize" not understand, literally. Like the word or not, the term churchian fits both these things. <br /><br />the imperatives, all, are between God and man, not between man and woman. Performance or lack thereof are affronts to God foremost. HE says do this.....not do this IF....full stop. That is the basis of my assertion, hence though perhaps you didnt mean to infer conditionality, my assertion had basis. <br /><br />My comments about the blog are simple. I read blogs I disagree with and even dislike the content of frequently. I post and discourse on them. They do not refer to those who disagree as vermin, whining masturbater, etc. A strong dogged adherence to belief and message is great. Instantly insulting and name calling as a response to challenge of ideas is not good form. One can display strength and powerful frame without those things being said, and one is far more persuasive....NOT by being nice in an "everyone get along...Rodney King" way, but by avoiding childish name calling. The topic is interesting, but not worth being provoked needlessly.<br /><br />I will not darken the pages further. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3115260514178140021.post-82157144822093906192013-05-03T15:25:09.050-05:002013-05-03T15:25:09.050-05:00"I internalized it. It was horrible."
F..."I internalized it. It was horrible."<br /><br />From past posts you banged a whole bunch of chicks before marrying. That is not internalizing any of the BS. If you had actually internalized it then you would NOT have banged any chicks.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com