If that means him calling the shots... then it is not worth it. No matter how golden the cage you're in, is. Nothing is worth giving up your own agency, your own contol [sic] of your life. - vanir85Before I continue posting on the benefits of wives using reasoned and honest discourse in communicating with their husbands I want to emphasize a situation where utilizing logic is futile. If you are a Christian, married woman who desires to obey God and agrees the Bible is Truth, you will not be able to debate honestly with a feminist. Statistics, historical facts, observable and objective reality will not aid your argument. There is no reasoning with them and therefore no way to persuade them using dialectical discourse. They willfully will not know what you know, understand what you understand, nor are they opposed to lying. How do you reason with a liar? You simply can not.
There is no benefit for us to consider their appeals or their opinions especially once we've identified their contradictions. There is no point in attempting to use the Socratic method to persuade them either. In being dishonest, they do not care that they've made contradictions.
It is important for Christian women to know the evil that lurks within the mind of the feminist and guard their hearts. There is no such thing as a feminist who believes the Bible is Truth. Those who claim as such will reveal themselves as liars rather quickly.
A woman who spent some time commenting on Alpha Game the other day did a fantastic job illustrating what feminists think of wives who obey God. Much of what she said I've heard before from other feminists.
Here's an incomplete list of her opinions of a Christian wife who obeys God (the Bible verses I've added tell the Truth to each):
- simply damaged
Psalm 34:18 Matthew 5:5
- has no agency
Romans 14:11
- is less healthy than obese rebellious women
Proverbs 23:20-2, 1 Corinthians 6:20
- is not allowed the right to make unhealthy and destructive choices
Proverbs 17:11
- is a servile wifebot
John 12:26
- her status and comfort depend on being attractive and feminine
Proverbs 31
- will make no mark on history
John 10:14-15
- will make no difference to the world
Proverbs 31:28
- has no self respect
Romans 12:2
- is a faceless cog
Romans 8:28-30
- has children who are worse off than those of single mothers
Deuteronomy 6:4-9
Outside of this woman's desire, and a bit of an obsession, to have all women experience the freedom of obesity (determined to be the number one health problem in the US by the CDC), take a look at the goal:
Is it equality that is sought by this feminist or her own superiority and dominance?A feminist future is where women are free, with as much power over the world at large as men. Where no woman, anywhere, will HAVE to bend her knee to a man - for survival, means, protection, anything. And if I did not think that possible, I wouldn't care enough about our specie's future or survival, to even bother debating here.
How has this feminist done in her quest?And the point is; women should not have to depend solely on a superior economic entity. They should aim for a position where they could be a superior economic entity (to a partner, and/or her own employees).
Ah yes, this woman will be remembered and revered for generations to come for her accomplishment of having done nothing.I have not made the mark I wish to make yet. But even doing nothing would still be preferable over contributing to the evil system of female degradation you laughably think of as "nobel" - at least then one caused no further HARM to this pitiful world.
Here is one of my favorite lies she tells:
Never mind what she calls a chauvinist hell, that's code word for "obedience to God". There were five women commenting on that thread alone, who have voluntarily become the wives she fears. No guns, no force.And guns, force, are the only thing that will ever get women back in the chauvinist hell you people oh-so-dearly want them trapped in. That is the truth. That it what it takes to get free people back into subjugation and servitude.
Yes, it's fear. Of course it is fear. This woman is terrified that the Word of God is the Truth. Husbands simply can not be to blame for their position in a marriage. It was declared so, by God (Ephesians 5:23).
Don't ever be fooled by women like this. She wants that all women be free to choose their path in life but feels contempt toward the wife who chooses to obey God:
If you have the stomach to read through the whole thread you might recognize the seething rage, the loathing, and the terror predictable from a wasted life lived in rebellion. There is no reasoning with her. There is no debate. All that remains to be said to women like this is:and to be clear, whatever contempt i hold for women who chose subjugation
You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. - John 8:44
Off the top of my head, I do not remember ever physically knowing one single woman who started her marriage off in a headship/submission model, let alone a woman who has remained in one because of threats. They all (including myself) married with egalitarian marriage plans, then were shown/convicted of the truth and finally, repented to their husbands and God, choosing instead, to obey their commands concerning marriage. If "the only thing that will ever get women back in the chauvinist hell you people oh-so-dearly want them trapped in" was fact, then this would not be so, I would have seen many more women being threatened into obedience, which I have seen none. Not that you need more proof anyway! Now, to read the comments over there.
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